16V Intermediate Shaft Pulley
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16V Intermediate Shaft Pulley
Hey gents.
Currently doing a 16V conversion for my lil brother. We're using his 2E block and a 16V head we picked up (ABF).
The 16V Intermediate Shaft is not easy to find and the ones that are available are just unreasonably price due to it being scarce here.
We managed to get the 16V Intermediate Shaft Pulley.
I have already modified the current 8V shaft pulley to drive the dizzy which drives the oil pump as we wont be using the dizzy (you know why)
My question is.. Can the 8V shaft be modified to fit the 16V shaft pulley?
I need advice
Currently doing a 16V conversion for my lil brother. We're using his 2E block and a 16V head we picked up (ABF).
The 16V Intermediate Shaft is not easy to find and the ones that are available are just unreasonably price due to it being scarce here.
We managed to get the 16V Intermediate Shaft Pulley.
I have already modified the current 8V shaft pulley to drive the dizzy which drives the oil pump as we wont be using the dizzy (you know why)
My question is.. Can the 8V shaft be modified to fit the 16V shaft pulley?
I need advice
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Re: 16V Intermediate Shaft Pulley
yes it can,the 8v shaft has a half moon keyway where the 16v is some what straight,just give the pulley and shaft to a engineer and ask them to machine the keyway straight,ive done it more than once,never had a issue.
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Re: 16V Intermediate Shaft Pulley
You need to cut a bit off the end as the protruding part of the shaft is too long and modify the keyway as mentioned. In a pinch Inhave done both those with a hacksaw and a flat file.
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Re: 16V Intermediate Shaft Pulley
Thanks guys! i will attempt to do it myself as i have an extra 8V shaft.
One question.. by using the 2E block and ABF head, how will this affect the CR? FYI it will be N/A and pistons are stock
One question.. by using the 2E block and ABF head, how will this affect the CR? FYI it will be N/A and pistons are stock
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Re: 16V Intermediate Shaft Pulley
The compression ratio will be perfect for boost.
That combo will have an 8.5:1 comp ratio.
If you want to keep running NA, get 16V pistons.
That combo will have an 8.5:1 comp ratio.
If you want to keep running NA, get 16V pistons.
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Re: 16V Intermediate Shaft Pulley
i see. Will it be worth it to change the pistons if in future my brother would want to FI?Jetta2 wrote:The compression ratio will be perfect for boost.
That combo will have an 8.5:1 comp ratio.
If you want to keep running NA, get 16V pistons.
is there a way to compensate for the CR using the stock pistons?
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Re: 16V Intermediate Shaft Pulley
The only way is to fit the correct pistons if you want the normal 16V NA compression ratio.
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Re: 16V Intermediate Shaft Pulley
Uhm it is not naturally aspirated vs fuel injection.
It is naturally aspirated vs turbo or super charging.
So unless he plans to boost the car he has to use 16v pistons or it will be missing lots and lots of ponies.
It is naturally aspirated vs turbo or super charging.
So unless he plans to boost the car he has to use 16v pistons or it will be missing lots and lots of ponies.
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Re: 16V Intermediate Shaft Pulley
FI = Forced induction*panic-mechanic wrote:Uhm it is not naturally aspirated vs fuel injection.
It is naturally aspirated vs turbo or super charging.
So unless he plans to boost the car he has to use 16v pistons or it will be missing lots and lots of ponies.
i will look at 16V pistons
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Re: 16V Intermediate Shaft Pulley
This is why I hate acronyms. FI has never meant boost in my life but ok we are on the me page then. So yes if that is the plan then leave the 8valve pistons.
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Re: 16V Intermediate Shaft Pulley
hahaha sorry for the confusion. it will be boost from now on.panic-mechanic wrote:This is why I hate acronyms. FI has never meant boost in my life but ok we are on the me page then. So yes if that is the plan then leave the 8valve pistons.
How does the 16V KR pistons differ from 16V ABF. saw a set for sale
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Re: 16V Intermediate Shaft Pulley
Deck height and gudgeon pin size differs. Will not work with the 2l crank
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Re: 16V Intermediate Shaft Pulley
Thanks Panic. I will look to source ABF pistons. I'll keep you guys postedpanic-mechanic wrote:Deck height and gudgeon pin size differs. Will not work with the 2l crank
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Re: 16V Intermediate Shaft Pulley
There are cheaper options than ABF Pistons.
You can look at using Nissan CA18 or even BMW 328 pistons - cant remember all off them but do a search as it has been discussed in the past.
You can look at using Nissan CA18 or even BMW 328 pistons - cant remember all off them but do a search as it has been discussed in the past.
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Re: 16V Intermediate Shaft Pulley
Thanks Donny i'll look into it. Makes sense though. I might as well be looking at options at this pointDonavan wrote:There are cheaper options than ABF Pistons.
You can look at using Nissan CA18 or even BMW 328 pistons - cant remember all off them but do a search as it has been discussed in the past.
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