Help Needed Jetta3
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Help Needed Jetta3
Hi guys
So my 96' Jetta 3 1.6i CSL, 330000km's has been acting up since Sunday.
I felt the car has like no power between 1000rpm and 2500rpm especially. I drove the car to work Monday morning as I had to work late Monday(there was no way I would use public transport at night). So... I could hardly get my car out of our basement, I practically had to burn the clutch to get it up the steep basement exit. Anyway, I drove home (40kms) and as I got closer to my house I could feel the car was starting to loose power more and more. I got to the last robot before my house and the car struggled to idle and eventually died.
What could be wrong?
There is spark, timing is fine according to mechanic, fuel pressure is fine.
TIA
So my 96' Jetta 3 1.6i CSL, 330000km's has been acting up since Sunday.
I felt the car has like no power between 1000rpm and 2500rpm especially. I drove the car to work Monday morning as I had to work late Monday(there was no way I would use public transport at night). So... I could hardly get my car out of our basement, I practically had to burn the clutch to get it up the steep basement exit. Anyway, I drove home (40kms) and as I got closer to my house I could feel the car was starting to loose power more and more. I got to the last robot before my house and the car struggled to idle and eventually died.
What could be wrong?
There is spark, timing is fine according to mechanic, fuel pressure is fine.
TIA
Current: '10 BMW E90 320D LCI MSport Auto - Alpine White
Ex: '96 Jetta 3 CSL - White (SOLD)
Ex: '05 Velocity 1.6i SOLD
Ex: 1.9 TDI Suety PD - TUNING (SOLD)
Ex: 1.8i Playa LYF ___ GP (SOLD)
Ex: Mazda Midge 323 160i (Sold)
LYGP 1.8i
Ex: '96 Jetta 3 CSL - White (SOLD)
Ex: '05 Velocity 1.6i SOLD
Ex: 1.9 TDI Suety PD - TUNING (SOLD)
Ex: 1.8i Playa LYF ___ GP (SOLD)
Ex: Mazda Midge 323 160i (Sold)
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boost'd wrote:"big rims are like high heels, they not comfortable to wear but they do look good"
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Re: Help Needed Jetta3
Compression test? Timing? Including valve timing?
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Re: Help Needed Jetta3
If only I/you didn't live so far away, my car would have been in your workshop already.panic-mechanic wrote:Compression test? Timing? Including valve timing?
Current: '10 BMW E90 320D LCI MSport Auto - Alpine White
Ex: '96 Jetta 3 CSL - White (SOLD)
Ex: '05 Velocity 1.6i SOLD
Ex: 1.9 TDI Suety PD - TUNING (SOLD)
Ex: 1.8i Playa LYF ___ GP (SOLD)
Ex: Mazda Midge 323 160i (Sold)
LYGP 1.8i
Ex: '96 Jetta 3 CSL - White (SOLD)
Ex: '05 Velocity 1.6i SOLD
Ex: 1.9 TDI Suety PD - TUNING (SOLD)
Ex: 1.8i Playa LYF ___ GP (SOLD)
Ex: Mazda Midge 323 160i (Sold)
LYGP 1.8i
boost'd wrote:"big rims are like high heels, they not comfortable to wear but they do look good"
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Re: Help Needed Jetta3
Does he hve vagcom or similar. Just check that there are no obvious errors in the mangement..
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'05 Audi A6 3.0L TDI Avant
'09 Touareg 3l TDI
'13 VW CC 2l tdi (repair project)
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'05 Touareg v10
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Re: Help Needed Jetta3
No, he does not. But i'm going to another mechanic this weekend that does actually have vagcom to check.
Current: '10 BMW E90 320D LCI MSport Auto - Alpine White
Ex: '96 Jetta 3 CSL - White (SOLD)
Ex: '05 Velocity 1.6i SOLD
Ex: 1.9 TDI Suety PD - TUNING (SOLD)
Ex: 1.8i Playa LYF ___ GP (SOLD)
Ex: Mazda Midge 323 160i (Sold)
LYGP 1.8i
Ex: '96 Jetta 3 CSL - White (SOLD)
Ex: '05 Velocity 1.6i SOLD
Ex: 1.9 TDI Suety PD - TUNING (SOLD)
Ex: 1.8i Playa LYF ___ GP (SOLD)
Ex: Mazda Midge 323 160i (Sold)
LYGP 1.8i
boost'd wrote:"big rims are like high heels, they not comfortable to wear but they do look good"
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Re: Help Needed Jetta3
Look at manifold prssure sender , tps, temp
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'09 Touareg 3l TDI
'13 VW CC 2l tdi (repair project)
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'05 Audi A6 3.0L TDI Avant
'09 Touareg 3l TDI
'13 VW CC 2l tdi (repair project)
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Unplugged the manifold pressure sender(I hope that's what we unplugged) and made no difference. Unplugged the temp switch, the car manged to start once or twice but then dies again after a few seconds. What's TPS ?panic-mechanic wrote:Look at manifold prssure sender , tps, temp
Current: '10 BMW E90 320D LCI MSport Auto - Alpine White
Ex: '96 Jetta 3 CSL - White (SOLD)
Ex: '05 Velocity 1.6i SOLD
Ex: 1.9 TDI Suety PD - TUNING (SOLD)
Ex: 1.8i Playa LYF ___ GP (SOLD)
Ex: Mazda Midge 323 160i (Sold)
LYGP 1.8i
Ex: '96 Jetta 3 CSL - White (SOLD)
Ex: '05 Velocity 1.6i SOLD
Ex: 1.9 TDI Suety PD - TUNING (SOLD)
Ex: 1.8i Playa LYF ___ GP (SOLD)
Ex: Mazda Midge 323 160i (Sold)
LYGP 1.8i
boost'd wrote:"big rims are like high heels, they not comfortable to wear but they do look good"
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Re: Help Needed Jetta3
Throttle position sender. Unplugging something is not a diagnostic method i rate as any good. All you have managed to do is record more errors in the management. You need to use the tool and see if they report reasonably correct values.
Stephan van Tonder - Jhb - Putfontein Benoni
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'09 Touareg 3l TDI
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Re: Help Needed Jetta3
Noted, thank you Panic.panic-mechanic wrote:Throttle position sender. Unplugging something is not a diagnostic method i rate as any good. All you have managed to do is record more errors in the management. You need to use the tool and see if they report reasonably correct values.
I'll hopefully have the car towed to a workshop this weekend.
Will provide feedback as soon as possible.
Current: '10 BMW E90 320D LCI MSport Auto - Alpine White
Ex: '96 Jetta 3 CSL - White (SOLD)
Ex: '05 Velocity 1.6i SOLD
Ex: 1.9 TDI Suety PD - TUNING (SOLD)
Ex: 1.8i Playa LYF ___ GP (SOLD)
Ex: Mazda Midge 323 160i (Sold)
LYGP 1.8i
Ex: '96 Jetta 3 CSL - White (SOLD)
Ex: '05 Velocity 1.6i SOLD
Ex: 1.9 TDI Suety PD - TUNING (SOLD)
Ex: 1.8i Playa LYF ___ GP (SOLD)
Ex: Mazda Midge 323 160i (Sold)
LYGP 1.8i
boost'd wrote:"big rims are like high heels, they not comfortable to wear but they do look good"
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Re: Help Needed Jetta3
Fuel starvation? Suspect that your fuel pump is giving up.
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Fuel was was replaced about 2/3 months ago.Supervan II wrote:Fuel starvation? Suspect that your fuel pump is giving up.
Current: '10 BMW E90 320D LCI MSport Auto - Alpine White
Ex: '96 Jetta 3 CSL - White (SOLD)
Ex: '05 Velocity 1.6i SOLD
Ex: 1.9 TDI Suety PD - TUNING (SOLD)
Ex: 1.8i Playa LYF ___ GP (SOLD)
Ex: Mazda Midge 323 160i (Sold)
LYGP 1.8i
Ex: '96 Jetta 3 CSL - White (SOLD)
Ex: '05 Velocity 1.6i SOLD
Ex: 1.9 TDI Suety PD - TUNING (SOLD)
Ex: 1.8i Playa LYF ___ GP (SOLD)
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Re: Help Needed Jetta3
Test it nevertheless.LYFGP0 wrote:Fuel was was replaced about 2/3 months ago.Supervan II wrote:Fuel starvation? Suspect that your fuel pump is giving up.
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Will have it checked out too, thanks.Supervan II wrote:Test it nevertheless.LYFGP0 wrote:Fuel was was replaced about 2/3 months ago.Supervan II wrote:Fuel starvation? Suspect that your fuel pump is giving up.
So I got the car scanned with VCDS and the only errors/faults that showed up were RPM sensor, Temperature Sensor and Manifold sensor. I guess those errors came up because of having them unplugged as Panic suggests.
Current: '10 BMW E90 320D LCI MSport Auto - Alpine White
Ex: '96 Jetta 3 CSL - White (SOLD)
Ex: '05 Velocity 1.6i SOLD
Ex: 1.9 TDI Suety PD - TUNING (SOLD)
Ex: 1.8i Playa LYF ___ GP (SOLD)
Ex: Mazda Midge 323 160i (Sold)
LYGP 1.8i
Ex: '96 Jetta 3 CSL - White (SOLD)
Ex: '05 Velocity 1.6i SOLD
Ex: 1.9 TDI Suety PD - TUNING (SOLD)
Ex: 1.8i Playa LYF ___ GP (SOLD)
Ex: Mazda Midge 323 160i (Sold)
LYGP 1.8i
boost'd wrote:"big rims are like high heels, they not comfortable to wear but they do look good"
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Re: Help Needed Jetta3
Ok so diagnosis don't stop at looking for error codes. Go to the reading blocks and check
does the temperature seem correct(agree to ambient if it has not been started)
does the TPS reading change when you move the throttle Small to big as you put your foot down and move linearly)
does the manifold pressure look right (0.83 at altitude with engine on but not running)
does the temperature seem correct(agree to ambient if it has not been started)
does the TPS reading change when you move the throttle Small to big as you put your foot down and move linearly)
does the manifold pressure look right (0.83 at altitude with engine on but not running)
Stephan van Tonder - Jhb - Putfontein Benoni
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'09 Touareg 3l TDI
'13 VW CC 2l tdi (repair project)
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'05 Touareg v10
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Re: Help Needed Jetta3
What language is this Mr Panic?panic-mechanic wrote:Ok so diagnosis don't stop at looking for error codes. Go to the reading blocks and check
does the temperature seem correct(agree to ambient if it has not been started)
does the TPS reading change when you move the throttle Small to big as you put your foot down and move linearly)
does the manifold pressure look right (0.83 at altitude with engine on but not running)
I think the easiest solution now is to have the car towed to a workshop so it can be sorted once and for all.
I however bought a new temp switch, just so it is ma replaced.
Current: '10 BMW E90 320D LCI MSport Auto - Alpine White
Ex: '96 Jetta 3 CSL - White (SOLD)
Ex: '05 Velocity 1.6i SOLD
Ex: 1.9 TDI Suety PD - TUNING (SOLD)
Ex: 1.8i Playa LYF ___ GP (SOLD)
Ex: Mazda Midge 323 160i (Sold)
LYGP 1.8i
Ex: '96 Jetta 3 CSL - White (SOLD)
Ex: '05 Velocity 1.6i SOLD
Ex: 1.9 TDI Suety PD - TUNING (SOLD)
Ex: 1.8i Playa LYF ___ GP (SOLD)
Ex: Mazda Midge 323 160i (Sold)
LYGP 1.8i
boost'd wrote:"big rims are like high heels, they not comfortable to wear but they do look good"
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Re: Help Needed Jetta3
Okay, so the car has been fixed finally
Turns out the crank gear (IIRC) stripped a tooth. Mechanic confirmed the car is 100% now
While it was there, I had him do the following too:
* Camblet
* Tensioners
* Service (New oil, spark plugs etc)
* Waterpump (Was leaking)
Turns out the crank gear (IIRC) stripped a tooth. Mechanic confirmed the car is 100% now
While it was there, I had him do the following too:
* Camblet
* Tensioners
* Service (New oil, spark plugs etc)
* Waterpump (Was leaking)
Current: '10 BMW E90 320D LCI MSport Auto - Alpine White
Ex: '96 Jetta 3 CSL - White (SOLD)
Ex: '05 Velocity 1.6i SOLD
Ex: 1.9 TDI Suety PD - TUNING (SOLD)
Ex: 1.8i Playa LYF ___ GP (SOLD)
Ex: Mazda Midge 323 160i (Sold)
LYGP 1.8i
Ex: '96 Jetta 3 CSL - White (SOLD)
Ex: '05 Velocity 1.6i SOLD
Ex: 1.9 TDI Suety PD - TUNING (SOLD)
Ex: 1.8i Playa LYF ___ GP (SOLD)
Ex: Mazda Midge 323 160i (Sold)
LYGP 1.8i
boost'd wrote:"big rims are like high heels, they not comfortable to wear but they do look good"