Vw 2E/ADY/AGG/ABA decisions decisions, which 1 do I buy?
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Re: Vw 2E/ADY/AGG/ABA decisions decisions, which 1 do I buy?
So you went all the way to build a strong naturally aspirated motor. Now you want to undo all that to go boost?
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Re: Vw 2E/ADY/AGG/ABA decisions decisions, which 1 do I buy?
Panic
I am giving it some thought. What you say is gospel if you say waste of time il ditch the idea like a wet dream.
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Gersh
I am giving it some thought. What you say is gospel if you say waste of time il ditch the idea like a wet dream.
Kind Regards
Gersh
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it just seems like a waste of money. To build strong N/A and to build turbo are totally opposite methods. So all the trouble you have gone to will be lost really
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Re: Vw 2E/ADY/AGG/ABA decisions decisions, which 1 do I buy?
Aahhh thanks panic. The car is currently getting sprayed, il just restore everything new then, spots, mudflaps, new carpet and new seats. Make it a real looker as well and maintain it. Wanted to do the whole 83mm piston set up but on pump fuel only and the slight cr bump on pump fuel they say wont make the world of difference. Just leave it as is.
Thanks for the advice your a real legend. We love having you here.
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Re: Vw 2E/ADY/AGG/ABA decisions decisions, which 1 do I buy?
hey guys my 2.0 8valve AGG with dictator is making 75,2kw on the wheels dont know if is good or not what can I do to gain more I'm new in this
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Dyno numbers are simply a guideline.Jaars wrote: hey guys my 2.0 8valve AGG with dictator is making 75,2kw on the wheels dont know if is good or not what can I do to gain more I'm new in this
Yours does seem a little low.
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Re: Vw 2E/ADY/AGG/ABA decisions decisions, which 1 do I buy?
What cam will be the best for my car between the 276 an 288
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Re: Vw 2E/ADY/AGG/ABA decisions decisions, which 1 do I buy?
276 is a nice middle ground cam. You dont loose too much bottom end torque. 288 might be a bit much for daily use(if this is your daily?) All depends on personal preference. Some guys have driven daily's with 298 cams. Is this is your first cam experience then I would say go for 276. I had a 282 in my ADY and loved it.
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2006 Citi Golf 2E, Dictator, 4-2-1
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2003 Audi A3 1.8t, Thanas Tuned, FMIC, coilies, DP and exhaust
2007 Citi golf. ADY with Spitronics 60-2, estas 282, 4-2-1, coilies
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=183329
2002 Citi golf. ADY carb, estas 282, 4-2-1, GW delarey big brake kit.
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=157603
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2006 Citi Golf 2E, Dictator, 4-2-1
Ex:
2003 Audi A3 1.8t, Thanas Tuned, FMIC, coilies, DP and exhaust
2007 Citi golf. ADY with Spitronics 60-2, estas 282, 4-2-1, coilies
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=183329
2002 Citi golf. ADY carb, estas 282, 4-2-1, GW delarey big brake kit.
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=157603
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Re: Vw 2E/ADY/AGG/ABA decisions decisions, which 1 do I buy?
Hey can you please tell me. I'm run now with my standard citi rox intake and injector on my 2.0 AGG will the 2.0 AGG short intake and injector make a difference
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Re: Vw 2E/ADY/AGG/ABA decisions decisions, which 1 do I buy?
Short intake will increase throttle response and maybe wake it up some more up top bit you will sacrifice torque. I assume you have a 1.6i which is no slouch but it does not have the low down torque of a 2L, thats why they have the long intake
Current:
2006 Citi Golf 2E, Dictator, 4-2-1
Ex:
2003 Audi A3 1.8t, Thanas Tuned, FMIC, coilies, DP and exhaust
2007 Citi golf. ADY with Spitronics 60-2, estas 282, 4-2-1, coilies
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=183329
2002 Citi golf. ADY carb, estas 282, 4-2-1, GW delarey big brake kit.
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=157603
1971 VW beetle
2006 Citi Golf 2E, Dictator, 4-2-1
Ex:
2003 Audi A3 1.8t, Thanas Tuned, FMIC, coilies, DP and exhaust
2007 Citi golf. ADY with Spitronics 60-2, estas 282, 4-2-1, coilies
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=183329
2002 Citi golf. ADY carb, estas 282, 4-2-1, GW delarey big brake kit.
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=157603
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Re: Vw 2E/ADY/AGG/ABA decisions decisions, which 1 do I buy?
Ohk so I must install the short intake on my 2.0
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Re: Vw 2E/ADY/AGG/ABA decisions decisions, which 1 do I buy?
Up to you, if you drive harder and more in the higher rpm then yes, if not then no
Current:
2006 Citi Golf 2E, Dictator, 4-2-1
Ex:
2003 Audi A3 1.8t, Thanas Tuned, FMIC, coilies, DP and exhaust
2007 Citi golf. ADY with Spitronics 60-2, estas 282, 4-2-1, coilies
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=183329
2002 Citi golf. ADY carb, estas 282, 4-2-1, GW delarey big brake kit.
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=157603
1971 VW beetle
2006 Citi Golf 2E, Dictator, 4-2-1
Ex:
2003 Audi A3 1.8t, Thanas Tuned, FMIC, coilies, DP and exhaust
2007 Citi golf. ADY with Spitronics 60-2, estas 282, 4-2-1, coilies
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=183329
2002 Citi golf. ADY carb, estas 282, 4-2-1, GW delarey big brake kit.
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=157603
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Re: Vw 2E/ADY/AGG/ABA decisions decisions, which 1 do I buy?
hi, will my Spitronics Orion ECU run a VW 2L ADY engine?
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Re: Vw 2E/ADY/AGG/ABA decisions decisions, which 1 do I buy?
Yes with the correct map and settingsTheodore4016 wrote: ↑Mon May 11, 2020 11:12 am hi, will my Spitronics Orion ECU run a VW 2L ADY engine?
Current:
2006 Citi Golf 2E, Dictator, 4-2-1
Ex:
2003 Audi A3 1.8t, Thanas Tuned, FMIC, coilies, DP and exhaust
2007 Citi golf. ADY with Spitronics 60-2, estas 282, 4-2-1, coilies
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=183329
2002 Citi golf. ADY carb, estas 282, 4-2-1, GW delarey big brake kit.
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=157603
1971 VW beetle
2006 Citi Golf 2E, Dictator, 4-2-1
Ex:
2003 Audi A3 1.8t, Thanas Tuned, FMIC, coilies, DP and exhaust
2007 Citi golf. ADY with Spitronics 60-2, estas 282, 4-2-1, coilies
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=183329
2002 Citi golf. ADY carb, estas 282, 4-2-1, GW delarey big brake kit.
Rides thread: http://vwclub.co.za/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=157603
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Re: Vw 2E/ADY/AGG/ABA decisions decisions, which 1 do I buy?
Hey guys need advise my 2.0 AGG is currently doing 86kw on the dyno with standard management and 276cam. What more can I do that can take me to 100kw easily and cheap... still standard exhaust
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Re: Vw 2E/ADY/AGG/ABA decisions decisions, which 1 do I buy?
Start by reading, it's easy and cheap.Jaars wrote:Hey guys need advise my 2.0 AGG is currently doing 86kw on the dyno with standard management and 276cam. What more can I do that can take me to 100kw easily and cheap... still standard exhaust
100wkW is a big ask for an 8v, especially if you don't live at the coast. Work on roughly R1000/kW you want to gain as a guide to estimate the funds required. This thumb guide goes out the window when it comes to turbos, though.
I don't want to discourage you, but rather to give you a realistic expectation. Remember if was easy or cheap everyone would have Bugatti Chiron's in the driveway.
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Re: Vw 2E/ADY/AGG/ABA decisions decisions, which 1 do I buy?
Hi guys I want to install throttles on my 2.0 8valve AGG... 20valve curl ups tubes will it be a waste of time or will I gain some power
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I don think those will fit the 8V.Jaars wrote:Hi guys I want to install throttles on my 2.0 8valve AGG... 20valve curl ups tubes will it be a waste of time or will I gain some power
Throttles on an 8v are almost pointless unless all you want is throttle noises.
If it's for performance reasons you are barking up the wrong tree. 2E/ADY/AGG engines make nice low end torque, throttles will sacrifice most of it and gain very little at top. The only way to make them effective is to get the motor to rev to 9000rpm
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Re: Vw 2E/ADY/AGG/ABA decisions decisions, which 1 do I buy?
Thanx so I must just fit a induction kit... and head works... I fitted a viper branch 4-2-1... can I fit a 57mm viper exhaust or will it be to small or to big
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Re: Vw 2E/ADY/AGG/ABA decisions decisions, which 1 do I buy?
I want to gain more power
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Go 20VT.Jaars wrote:I want to gain more power
Bang for buck it's very hard to beat.
The money you will spend to get the 2l not even 3/4 of the way to 20v stock power is ridiculous.
Old rule of thumb R1000 per kW gain.
2l is 95ish stock and 20VT makes 160kW odd, so following the rule, R65k only on the engine to match the power output.
Sell the stock 2l for R9-10k (it's a good runner), buy 20v for R18k and then you still have R50 Grand change for supporting mods
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