1.4i to 2.0 conversion - is it that simple?

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CRASH_IT wrote:Engine prices for 2l 8v have gone up alot lately.
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I can get the ady motor for R 5950 and it comes with stater altenator flywheel clutch kit injection all now i want to knw can i fit it just like that or is there parts that i need to change i'm trying to get my budget work out more or less???? Wil the clutch and fly wheel fit on my gear box the guy at the engine place is telling met is wil fit and run just like it is just need a remap for the mp9 and i also want to change my fi toe the one thats om my 1.4i atm?????
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pretty much straight fit. Just add to you budget a service kit, crank seals, cambelt and tesioner and dizzy. I have my doubts about the flywheel fitting. so might need a 210mm flywheel and clutch kit.
You can transfer all your mp9 across. manifold, Fi bits etc and run you mp9 with a 2.0 map.
Also transfer your pulley setup across also.
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CRASH_IT wrote:pretty much straight fit. Just add to you budget a service kit, crank seals, cambelt and tesioner and dizzy. I have my doubts about the flywheel fitting. so might need a 210mm flywheel and clutch kit.
You can transfer all your mp9 across. manifold, Fi bits etc and run you mp9 with a 2.0 map.
Also transfer your pulley setup across also.

I transferred all my stuff accross
I sold the 1.4i block, head, flywheel and clutch

Used the 1.4i alternator with pulleys,1.4i intake, starter and gearbox
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i'm geting the motor from engine den in pta they are R4500 no starter, altenator, or fuel injection but i can use all my 1.4 bits and just one last thing what flywheel and clutch kit is it exactly for what car?? i phoned gw and for that it's R1700+- service kit i'll get from a friend for around R500 + cam belt, tensioner just need some spesifics on the clutch and dizzy please what do i ask for??
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Ask for a 1.8 210mm flywheel and clutch kit. You should be able to use your 1.4i dizzy.
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CRASH_IT wrote:Ask for a 1.8 210mm flywheel and clutch kit. You should be able to use your 1.4i dizzy.
And the adaptor ring around the dizzy as the 2L blocks dizzy hole is bigger
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I bought a late model mk3 gti dizzy.
Worked for me.
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amstel18 wrote:I bought a late model mk3 gti dizzy.
Worked for me.
Or this, forgot about that :iagree:
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Hey guys. Quick question.. :twisted:
1.4 citi to 2E cnconversion: in terms of of wiring on injectors. 1.4 harness on the 2E. Any suggestions??
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Nass wrote:Hey guys. Quick question.. :twisted:
1.4 citi to 2E cnconversion: in terms of of wiring on injectors. 1.4 harness on the 2E. Any suggestions??
If you are using the 2E intake manifold, you can just splice the 2E injector wiring onto the MP9 harness, other option is to use the existing MP9 intake manifold and injectors, everything will be plug and play. The last option is the better one because it will allow you to use the throttle body, MAP sensor and injectors on the existing harness.
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Thank you for the response...
In addition.. does the 1.4 intake manifold and injectors adapt to the 2E cylinder head with no adapter plates?
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Nass wrote:Thank you for the response...
In addition.. does the 1.4 intake manifold and injectors adapt to the 2E cylinder head with no adapter plates?
Yes it's a straight fit, you can swap over the existing pulleys and alternator as well if you want to keep you engine bay 'stock' looking.
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Yes. The bolt holes line up and it will fit, the diameter of the runner is smaller than the port size. but it doesnt matter really, I just bolted it on as is. The gasket is also the same for both the 1.4i and 2.0i heads.
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1.4 injector is 6pin...and the 2.0 is a 2pin.. can the wiring harness of the 1.4 be used. If so, how?
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Hi guys, quick question im interested in putting a 1.6i velocity Mp9 system in my 2.0L golf 4 will i be able to remove my normal fuel management system and just put that one on or how does it work ?
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no. Mp 9 cannot run the stuff on that engine. it has 60-2 triggers - wasted spark and drive by wire throttle. None of which MP9 can control.
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